Thursday, April 27, 2006

How Wise is "So...Wise?" I'll Tell You...She's An Idiot!

This program is already in progress...

PART I
PART II
PART III
PART IV (...breaking it off with Chicago Chick)

I’m genuinely shocked and elated.

I was always careful not to ever really comment on his “situation.” All along I tell him I don’t want any part of it. I’m just not THAT girl…the one who plays games and pressures a guy into being with me. THAT girl winds up being Chicago Chick…fighting for a relationship with a guy who felt pressured into being with you in the first place. I’m not big into the chase or the hunt, I’m too impatient for that. If I’m gonna fuck a guy, I fuck him. No peek-a-boo games with the draws. Just come get ‘em, dammit. If I wanna be with him I let it be known.

I follow a man’s lead. That way I’m able to make the decision based on his intentions.

Common sense, right?

I thought so too.

He assures me that his problems were there long before me, so of course I trust him, and I’m admittedly relieved and happy to hear the announcement. I’m even more encouraged that he comes to this decision without me prodding. Shows his intentions.

We agree early on that our connection was way beyond physical…that we live too far away to just wanna hit the skins and scram. But we also acknowledge that we both have long distance issues. We both stayed in bad ones because of the comfort of not being alone but the distance to not be smothered and pressured into anything too serious.

We agree that this between us is much, much different. Strong. Amazing. Worth working at.

Wow, more shit I want to hear. Yessss!

So she is scheduled to come to Detroit for a Queen Latifah concert in a few days, and that’s when he plans to send her packing. The day that she is to leave I’m on pins and needles, waiting for him to call me and tell me he wants us to go steady. Looking back on it now, it probably wasn’t “so…wise” to bank on a guy who was dumping someone to get to me. How you get ‘em is how you keep ‘em, is what they say.

But this is true love. I’m convinced. The kind I had dreamed of. No joke. I had actually experienced a moment a few months into this affair, a singular moment in time when it occurred to me that THIS IS IT. This is the beginning of the rest of my young life. With this man.

Deep.

At about noon that day I get a text from his number. It reads: “Hi Wise. This is Chicago. You and Ford have fun! :) “

Damn. He said they were cool like that but I didn’t expect her to take it so well. Wow, she’s really mature, and …

Hold up…he let her send me a text? Were they like, sitting on the couch, shoulder to shoulder, saying their last goodbyes, typing and laughing and shit?

“Hi Wise. This is Chicago. You and Ford have fun! :) “

I didnt even know her name before now. Never asked. And here she has my damn personal cell phone number. And she really outdid herself with a sarcastic azz smiley face.

Wai'mit (wait.a.minute.)... Is this bitch playing on my phone?

I panic and call in for backup. My girl Mack isn’t sure either. The first thing she says is, “You better than me, cuz I woulda called back immediately and asked questions later!” I’m mature she assures me.

I don’t call. I wait.

And wait.

He finally calls me at like 4 and sounds like shit. I wait for the explanation that doesn’t come.

He says they had it out. She was really upset. So hurt. He feels like shit.

She asks him point blank if there is something going on with him and Wise...the girl posing all cozy with her man in that one reunion photo...the girl her man stayed with 4th of July weekend in NYC.

He says he told her everything.

Everything?

I’m pissed. If there were problems in the relationship long before me, if I had nothing to do with said problems, then why does she need details about me?? But he’s that kind of dude.

“I couldn’t lie to her,” he says. She had seen the pics from the reunion, and she saw my name in his phone [read: she was scrolling thru your shit pahtnah, and your dumb azz didn’t even think to be more cautious. I wonder if she speaks French.]

Oh yeah. The phone.

“So… ‘the fuck were you when she sent me that text from your phone?”

“What?” He is stuttering and confused. I tell him to look in his outbox and call me back. He’s baffled. Can’t “believe she would do something like that.” Etc. etc. (PS - He was in the shower)

He’s confused and spent. And needs time to think.

Just as I knew before I even saw him at the reunion that I would like him…I knew – without having the luxury of looking into his eyes this time – that there was much more to this story that I would never know.

He informs me that she requests his presence in Chicago that weekend to talk. He owes it to her, he says. But he will only drive down Saturday and not stay overnight. Again, I can see that this script will be edited several times before it’s all said and done.

We don’t speak for a week. When we do, he tells me he did stay overnight in Chicago and “a lot was said.” He tells me he needs time to figure shit out. That he hates leaving me in the dark and wants to talk to me about it so badly but doesn’t know what to say. He says he will call.

He does call, a week and some change later. I didn’t interrupt his time out not once, save for a “be safe” text on a day I know he is traveling for work.

When he does call he tells me that he made a mistake.

He hurt her so badly and he feels awful for it.

That they’ve been through a lot.

That his spending time getting to know me was what was keeping him from bonding with her.

That he really didn’t TRY with her.

He tells me that he needs to stay with her.

That he wants us to remain good friends.

Are you fcuking kidding me? You are fcuking kidding me, right? Ashton muhfuckin Kutcher is bout to jump out of my fcuking oven as soon as I start cussing, I know it!

After some choice words of discontent and accusations of acute bitchism, I politely decline his offer for friendship and don’t speak to him again for over 6 months.

I spend that time trying to pretend it never happened. I had so much going on at the time, thank God, that I just got busy at staying busy. That last convo was so disturbing and fake that it completely changed my perspective of him.

I was in love with a Bitch Dude. An indecisive Fuck Boy. He was so obsessed with being seen as a nice guy that he twisted his arguments accordingly to cover his azz, to discredit my very common sense allegations of a fucking flip flop.

“You said yourself that there was a chance I’d stay with her.”

That’s cuz I’m a realist. And because you NEVER gave me any indication that you were even considering staying with her. In fact, you flat out told me you planned to dump her somewhere between “U-N-I-T-Y” and “Latifah’s Had It Up To Here”!

In the aftermath I had to live with that rejection, wondering how he could walk away from the connection that had him so hype for months that he told anyone who would listen...(including his mama, who LOVES me). I had to wonder if he ever really even had those feelings that he professed.

And of course I had to relinquish the dream. A dream that does not come along often for this sista. It’s hard to find the right combination of ambition and brains, humor and sarcasm, culture and class, versatility and depth, pride and pipe, to match my own diverse quirks (and intense sex drive). I don’t meet that guy often, so it’s no wonder I let down my guard when I found this one. And the one time I do….THIS. Of course.
=================

Months passed of not hearing from him, thinking about him, wondering is he misses me. Wondering if he thinks he made a mistake. Wondering if there’s still a chance somewhere down the line. Be clear, I’m no Wait Around Chick…which is why I told him to fuck off when he wanted to stay in touch.

But when you get a glimpse of a great thing… a thing that even in it’s complications… feels so good and looks so bright….it’s hard not to want shit back.

It’s hard to walk away from the IDEA of Ford, who I now commonly refer to as the Ex-Con (no, brother never did any hard time). The life I was anticipating with him was beautiful. And I mourn for it in some ways.

But I can still have it. I realize that now. And it doesn’t have to be with him. I saw him a few weeks ago. I hang out with one of his friends, and one day Ford gets on a plane from Detroit and shows up. I had no idea that was coming. But it was just another in a short string of recent ambushes. I hear he'll be in town next weekend. He IM'd me last night and wants to meet and talk.

I won't front, whole thing’s a struggle…but I continue to keep it movin. Sure to make a MUCH WISER set of decisions, next time. Cuz there's always a next time.

THE END...AINT NO MORE COMING.AND I'M EXHAUSTED.

37 comments:

Anonymous said...

I understand how you feel. You see something, a possiblity, and you don't want to miss out. It hurts. Just keep moving, keep strong. You will find that with someone who actually can give their all to you, not just part of it.

Anonymous said...

great story. quite sad in the end, though "pride and pipe" was another little gem that made me chuckle.

ur analysis bout him being a nice guy trying not to hurt anyone seems bout right. his loss.

u didn't say anything about the status of ur relationship with the other guy. had u broken it off by then?

i don't know how many neils u know but is YOUR neil also a john fogerty fan? :o)

and THANK YOU Wise for being the kinda girl who aint bout inviting the chase. i don't understand why people don't show their interest when they're interested. so much time would be saved.

go on, get ur rest. ur fans faithfully await.

Anonymous said...

WoW this was an amazing recounting of the events of your life. Thanks for bein open and for sharing it with us.

"I’m just not THAT girl…the one who plays games and pressures a guy into being with me."

Can we get you teaching some classes?


"How you get ‘em is how you keep ‘em, is what they say."

That's some ish to contemplate.


“Hi Wise. This is Chicago. You and Ford have fun! :) “

That was a lil telling, I didn't think about it, said to myself "bitch". No man and his woman are ever that cool, even if the breakup is mutual, unless of course they're saddistic, and were having that laugh as you noted at your expense.

"That he wants us to remain good friends."

That gets me everytime, maybe after some time has passed, but not immediately not, just no. Sometimes its more healthy at least in the interim for their to be distance.

"That’s cuz I’m a realist."

That's smart even though it often has you straddling the fence between euphoria and despair.

"And of course I had to relinquish the dream."

No need to give up your dream, for you I'm confident that it will come.

Soulfull said...

Wow, reading these post brought back some similar memories of my own relationship with my now husband. This was a very interesting read and I have no doubt ole boy should be somewhere reading this and kicking himself in the behind for missing out on such an intelligent (or should I say wise, LOL!) sista. You inspire me to one day be brave and tell it all...

nikki said...

this was an amazing story.

I was in love with a Bitch Dude. An indecisive Fuck Boy. He was so obsessed with being seen as a nice guy that he twisted his arguments accordingly to cover his azz, to discredit my very common sense allegations of a fucking flip flop.

there are alot of cats like this in the world and they are adept at making the sista feel as though SHE'S the one tripping, as if the fact that his lies through omission mean he's off the hook because technically, he didn't CONFIRM he was gonna get with the sista or he didn't CONFIRM the situation with his girl. anything inferred by his behavior (not words) is just a 'figment of her imagination' and she's 'overreacting' when she calls him out for it. those are the biggest kinds of cowards in my book. i want the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. meanwhile, there ain't enough brothas around who have the balls to tell it like that.

i also feel you on the "in love with the IDEA of ford" and holding onto the dream that comes with that idea. reality is a bitter pill to swallow when your heart has been feeding off of the red kool aid of fantasy up until that moment. we build these cats up in our minds like they're gods when they're only flawed human beings. after reality sets in, the next question is "can i be with a guy who acts like this cuz THIS is the real him and that shit might never change."

in other words, the same shit he pulls with her he'll possibly pull with you. all that wishy-washy shit fucking SUCKS.

i'm not sure how things will end up for you, but i am hopeful you'll remain as strong as you can. it sucks to be weak in situations like this (i've been there too), but that's what makes us human.

C. Lewis Brown said...

Hey. I know I'm a random person but this struck a cord b/c a married friend of mine is going thru something similar. Except she's "Chicago." And it's 5 years later. "Nice guys" like that don't seem to change (based on friends experience that is) because they're TOO nice to burn bridges, which only ends up with somebody - or both people - getting strung along. Good luck.

The Very Reverend Ace Clemmons, Jr. said...

wow. Great read- and incredibly personal. thanks for letting all that out..

I suppose i'm a bit older than you , and i'll offer that your line here: "How you get ‘em is how you keep ‘em, is what they say."

Is wise beyond your years. The key here is that Ford was willing to Move into a new house before selling the old, and thats a bit of a red flag. Doesnt matter what was said between the both of you- actions speak volumes. It seems tho that somewhere all along you had a varying degree of skepticism about the whole thing- sometimes great sometimes insignificant- but always present?

The good news is that you know what you want and what you dont want and while Ford had attributes of your dream- he wasn't "the dream". But now your a little closer to seeing and recognizing that when it/he presents itself/himself.

peace be with you.
ace

So...Wise...Sista said...

AMEN Eps. Thanks brah.

MY Neil! Hey baby. Thank you for the insight. I called him on the nice guy thing and he was more than in agreement. Seems like one of those things that plagues him.

As for the status of my relationship, as I said, I follow a man's lead, and I told him straight up that I wasn't going to make the first move. But as fate would have it, right in the midst of all of this, like maybe a few days after the while text msg thing, I found out some shit about my guy...liiiike, illegal immigrant type shit. It truly couldn't get any more dramatic for me at that time. PS - He and I are still friends.

And hey, don't knock the women who live for the chase. Those girls usually get exactly what they want...that's just not what I want.

So how does it feel to be the inspiration of an entire blog post?

CNelly..."How you get ‘em is how you keep ‘em, is what they say."
That's something that I contemplated every single day that I was "with" Ford. But I tell you, when you have that feeling in your heart, it's easy to explain anything away.

“Hi Wise. This is Chicago. You and Ford have fun! :) “
Again shows how naive I was, bec that was truly my first instinct. 'Oh, she took that really well!' lol

"That he wants us to remain good friends."
Yeah honey, let's be good, good friends so you can tell me every time you're headed to Chicago to get your dick sucked. No thanks, buddy.

"That’s cuz I’m a realist."
See this is where I fuck up every time...I always think that because I'm realistic and analytical, that means I'll make the wise decisions. WRONG.

Wow Soufull...I'd def be interested in reading that story. Is your husband the proverbial good guy?

So...Wise...Sista said...

Nikki, Nikki, Nikki...girl! Coward is exactly it. And it's sooo disappointing, bec I thought we had built a stronger level of honesty.

"in other words, the same shit he pulls with her he'll possibly pull with you. all that wishy-washy shit fucking SUCKS."
This is something I always (still?) talked myself out of. Not bec I think I could change him, but bec I figured that he just would be different in a "real love" relationship...with me of course!

Honestly, I don't know what will become of old Wise either. :) The major catalyst that is often ignored is the circumstances of your life, the backdrop of all of these developments. Right now, I'm in the midst of some transitions...and I've been steering clear of any significant connection because of it. Fa real, fa real, the true test of strength will be how I respond to him being in town and what he has to say to me.

Sansamor (great name)...that's really interesting. So your friend is Chicago in the sense that the good guy chose her? Does she feel like she's being strung along? That to me would be the worse fate.

Rev says "It seems tho that somewhere all along you had a varying degree of skepticism about the whole thing-"

Yup. I was never comfy with the whole girlfriend thing (or my guy for that matter), and the reality was that as many times as he told me that he and Chicago had ALMOST broken up, the operative word was still ALMOST. As good as it all felt, there was still too many caveats to ignore. But you're right, I do feel clearer on ho/what I want, and that's worth something.

DP...you keep it real, which I love. As much as I want to deny it, the good guy shit IS game, and I fall for it every time if done with any signif level of authenticity. :(

nikki said...

sowise...i've been right there, too. i was thinking "well, this started off as unique...all this honesty and shit. surely this means something significant and different which means all the shit he did in the past he won't do with me."

and then he did exactly what i thought he wouldn't do. it really don't have shit to do with the "new" relationship. it got alot to do with the "old" bullshit they still got to deal with, cuz just cuz what he had with me was a "new" experience, ultimately if he hasn't matured to the point where he really sees past behavior as being cowardly in nature (and instead thinks it's supposed to be accepted cuz 'that's just who he is'), then that old behavior that he had with someone else is gonna pop up with me.

man, but i wish just once i could find the fantasy in the reality all in one brotha.

Urban Sista said...

Girl, I love reading your posts. I feel like I'm on your couch, eating popcorn, saying, "Yuh lie!"

Sigh. I think every woman knows a brother like that. The guy who says everything you want to hear. Does everything you want him to do then -- BRAM!!! He backs out and talks pure ignorance. *sucking teeth* Ford is not ready for a real relationship. Either he isn't man enough to break up with someone he doesn't want to be with or he's a jackass, plain and simple. I choose jackass.

Anyhow, the way you find your man is the way you lose your man and trust, he would have been playing the same game with another woman at some point in your relationship.

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Karamale said...

gotdamn niggas, niggas, NIGGAS! i hate even being one sometimes. it's always the "nice" ones who end up being the ASSHOLES!

(see, you done unleased shit i THOUGHT i had gotten over)

Rashan Jamal said...

Even though I knew it was coming, the ending was still f*cked up. Sorry you had to go through this.

the prisoner's wife said...

wow....this was my story back in...2000/2001?

i hate those types of situations, but letting go is the hardest part & you've done it sis. you have freed yourself for the REAL thing & not just the dream.

be easy sis. you did the right thing.

SunshineMama said...

Aawwwww DAY-UM! That was crazy! And yes, that was some bullshit...ni**AS and flies, I do DESPISE! Wow. That was quite a ride. YOu know a sista has no life over here now, (well I have baby life now) so I was living vicariously through you cooing and oohing over the chemistry parts...just to get let down on the break-up with chicago chic. That's wack wise, but you are right, you can have what you want even if it's not with him. Don't trip. ...Plenty more where he came from.

C. Lewis Brown said...

My friend is Chicago in that the "good guy" decided to stay with her and married her. But remained "friends" with the other chick, only to have it bite them in the ass 5 years down the road. Now both women feel rejected because he doesn't want to be the bad guy to either of them. The whole situation sucks :(

As for my name, I'm sure you can tell from it that my past relationships didn't go too well!

So...Wise...Sista said...

Yup Nikki..."ultimately if he hasn't matured to the point where he really sees past behavior as being cowardly in nature (and instead thinks it's supposed to be accepted cuz 'that's just who he is'), then that old behavior that he had with someone else is gonna pop up with me."

And this: "i wish just once i could find the fantasy in the reality all in one brotha."

If you can't find the reality in a "good guy" then where the hell do you find it? And how come trifling dudes are just considered trifling or dawgs, but good guys got "issues" or "demons" or they're "complex". :)


Urban, I got a couch and some kettle corn with your name on it!
"Anyhow, the way you find your man is the way you lose your man and trust, he would have been playing the same game with another woman at some point in your relationship."

That's something I'm STILL coming to grips with. As real as what happened is, it's not so real to believe he'd do it to me. :( Talk about a mind fuck.


Karamale: You sound like Riley from the Boondocks..."NIGGAS!" Call me crazy but I'll still take the good ones over the knucklehead any day. :)


TCas...thanks for the condolences. As a guy, what do you make of Ford's bitchery?


Wifey...thanks for stopping by. I really love your stuff. It's always cool knowing that other sistas have been where I been. And I am grateful for at least coming out of this whole thing a bit wiser. At least I hope I did!


Mama Hokai...how ya like that bullshit! You know what, since I was young I always clung really tight to guys that I really liked, bec there just never seemed to be a lot of them. I meet a lot of cats who are attractive, funny, cool to hang out with, but it's rare that I find a guy who can get into my head and stay in my system. A guy who seems to "get me". So I see that's a pattern that hasnt let up, bec it's really hard imagining another guy who is like Ford...yet NOT like him. Ya know...is smart, sexy, etc...but who is also a MAN and not a coward. One of my girls pointed out that this behavior is consistent with the type of guys I like...and that perhaps I need to re-evaluate what it is I'm looking for. Lawd, I feel too old for this shit!


Sans...whoa. That's terrible. I don't envy that situation at all. In my mind I would never be happy feeling like a guy settled with me if there was someone else. Seems like one of those things where you'd know in your heart that it's not right and when it falls apart you remember seeing the signs. Deep.

Yeah, I do love the name...but you're married now, no?

Thank you all for letting me finally breathe! I feel so much better. :)

Rashan Jamal said...

@ so...wise - the bitchery ( I love that word) was messed up, but I'd be lying if I said I've never gone that route. Sometimes its easier to go with the one you know will be there for you than put in the hard work of starting a new relationship.

nikki said...

lol@so wise...

If you can't find the reality in a "good guy" then where the hell do you find it? And how come trifling dudes are just considered trifling or dawgs, but good guys got "issues" or "demons" or they're "complex". :)

i wonder about that, too. it's kinda like the white person who commits a crime has 'mental problems or other extenuating factors' but if a black person commits a crime, he's just an 'animal' with 'innate evil qualities'. maybe the bottom line is that guys who do that kind of shit ain't good and shouldn't be given the benefit of a doubt just cuz they haven't overtly dogged a sista out. i mean, is it really better to be a guy who plays coward and isn't up front with what he's doing or the guy who puts his biz out there, letting all parties involved know he's playing them all?

i wouldn't want to be the sista in either situation, but i'd rather have the one i know is a dog instead of the guy playing like he's a pussycat when really all he is is a pussy.

So...Wise...Sista said...

I feel you on that TCas. Who isnt a fan of the easy route. I can live with that...but not months into you expressing that I'm the chick of your dreams, and me trying to hold my heart in my chest absolutely in love wit ya azz! Such is life.


Nikki...dag or pussy...I sure hope those aint the only 2 options!


The funny thing is that these blog comments (from virtual strangers) are vastly diff from the things my friends have had to say about Ford. Some have taken the "he's an idiot" stance...but the ones that know him from high school are just so perplexed about the whole thing. They just see him as an unassuming nerd who showed his bitch stripes but is on his way back around. Most of them didn't see his relationship as a deterrent...it was so simple to them, like 'get rid of her, what's the big deal.' One of my best friends who is married to her soul mate, both of them broke up with people to be together...cuz they were meant to be together...that was my role model. lol

The moral of this story, which is really not about me at all...is that there is no right or wrong answer in love. But HONESTY is the catalyst to making decisions that are right for you. And don't be scurred a love!

nikki said...

sowise - you're right. there really ain't a right or wrong on this. funny, i say "it is what it is" when it applies to everything else but love, but it's applicable there, too. i just don't like that answer when i'm not the one benefiting from it. LOL

for real though, everybody got their struggles. ford's challenge is obvious. can you live with a guy who is more concerned with being seen as 'the good guy' who is a 'victim of circumstances beyond his control' than a cat who might hurt your feelings but at least you know where you stand? then again, can folk really help being confused? can they help being afraid to step into something new and because of that, taking the easy route?

i just wish the love shit was easy. frankly, i'm about done with it.

So...Wise...Sista said...

Damned if you do and don't.
"then again, can folk really help being confused? can they help being afraid to step into something new and because of that, taking the easy route?"

That's the thing...it's human. It's real. There are challenges and confusion and all of that. And this could have easily been a guy telling this story...the girl of his dreams loves him but chooses the thug life baby daddy, or the dude with more cash, or the stable guy who always been there for her. And you understand the reasoning. That's only fair. But it's when as you say, you choose the easy way out and frankly the selfish way out and sacrifice this other person's feelings for the sake of making yourself comfortable. In my case, he acted like he never said he was unhappy with her and was bout to break up.

Maybe I'm an idiot for not ever taking the easy route. Maybe I'm an even bigger idiot for holding out hope!

The Very Reverend Ace Clemmons, Jr. said...

"The funny thing is that these blog comments (from virtual strangers) are vastly diff from the things my friends have had to say about Ford."

Two sides to every story- and while your a compelling writer to the point of being a literary tease (a big compliment)...we are only seeing it thru your eyes. Those folks who have the history of Ford from other life experiences, extrapolate how they would envision him in your situation.. we, as readers have no other prior knowledge- and you know- I'm sure he would tell a slightly different story than the one you told so well! (i still think he's got a weak character tho.)

The Very Reverend Ace Clemmons, Jr. said...

In my case, he acted like he never said he was unhappy with her and was bout to break up.

Well the dude was obvioulsy either- very confused and on the fence- flip flopping on a decision that effects two people greatly (weak)

or--

Seriouly going the whole nine to get in your pants and when the implication was that it would have perhpas more or thicker strings attached than he was willing to deal with.. he backed down.

Who knows. Guys are dogs, and will expend a huge amount of energy and brain-power constructing a weblike labrynth of deception to obtain one thing. Sometimes theres just too many balls in the air.

nikki said...

i don't think guys are dogs. i think that's a bullshit statement.

i think people, male and female, have the potential to dog folk out. what separates the grown folk from the kids are the ones who choose to dog (or choose to deal with that dog for that matter). everybody has choices. folk don't have to act the way they do. i've seen sistas dog out brothas, too.

The Very Reverend Ace Clemmons, Jr. said...

Glad to hear you think my opinion is bullshit. Well, i'm a guy and *my experience* in life, not yours- mine - is what makes me formulate my opinion. So if your calling my life experience bullshit- we'll have to agree to disagree.

So...Wise...Sista said...

Rev...I feel your sarcasm...but is that really how you want to allow brothas to be defined? A lot of them have doggish behavior, but is it by virtue of possessing a penis?

So based on your experience, what's a woman to do? Go to Sam's Club and stock up on flea powder...or conversely on batteries?

I'm not really satisfied with that 'dog' explanation, bec it exonerates brothas from responsibility and general maturity. I do acknowledge however, that the power of the P got y'all doing some nonsense. But this is a strictly "Keep it Real" zone...and it's not often that we get to hear brothas be real...so be real.

nikki said...

rev - i'm not calling your life bullshit. i'm calling the statement bullshit because it's being applied to every last brotha on the face of the earth. now, unless your experience means you've met every last brotha on the face of the earth, the statement is indeed bullshit.

that's the equivalent of me saying white folk hate black people or black men steal or some other shit like that if my experiences teach me that. doesn't make the comment any more responsible or accurate, even if it is based on my life experiences.

Mr.Slish said...

Next time this happens sweetheart call uncle Slish...I could have helped you avoid this madness...

Never ever ever ever!!Date or even sleep with a dude who tells you he has another chick. When a man is unhappy with his lady he will leave her no question about that. Ford chose to stay in his situation. Why? Probably had his reservations about you..

1. You were in a relationship when you guys got together. Making it kinda hard for him to trust you because maybe just maybe in the back of his mind he thought you might do the same thing to him..besides how could he track your movements..

2 That chicago chick probably spit those very lyrics in his ear. Since Ford is a practical fella. He made the most practical choice.

Fear of the unknown is a motherf@cka.. Ford was afraid not indecisive but scared of the possibility that you could one day break his heart... Despite how you expressed yourself to him...

Next time ask Uncle Slish

The Very Reverend Ace Clemmons, Jr. said...

ok. Im gonna take some heat. But being a man of god, i feel i can handel it.

i'm calling the statement bullshit because it's being applied to every last brotha on the face of the earth. now, unless your experience means you've met every last brotha on the face of the earth, the statement is indeed bullshit.

let me clarifiy what i meant- because- frankly i didnt spell it out to well.

nik- i'm NOT calling every male a dog. My poorly made point was an inference that, between men & women, i have found men to jump thru more hoops and do more things to an absurd degree to get laid. Yes women do it to. however i find men have a greater propensity to do this this percentage wise than women. perhaps its what i see in my line of work (no, not as a preacher) I was not offering this as Ford's motive for erratic behavior, but just as another facet in the octagaon. Maybe unlikely. Thats all. I hardly ever make sweeping generalizations unless there completely and obvioulsy tongue-in-cheek.

peace
ace

nikki said...

rev - the reality is that women and men are different so i can see some accuracy in what you say. we handle things differently. it's a combination of nature and societal cues i think.

either way, it still sucks that folk gotta put up with bullshit just cuz other folk ain't mature enough to handle the truth (or tell the truth for that matter).

The Very Reverend Ace Clemmons, Jr. said...

either way, it still sucks that folk gotta put up with bullshit just cuz other folk ain't mature enough to handle the truth (or tell the truth for that matter).

Dead on!

So...Wise...Sista said...

Uncle Slishy...sadly, nothing could have stopped me. I was convinced that this was my One. The doubts and the logic in my own head, which can be downright oppressive at times, didn't stop me. But Uncle Slishy woulda been great company for a few drinks to swallow down my heartbreak. lol

Jameil said...

oh HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL NO!! you are too fabulous, too smart, too fly and too (as stacie says) yff for that shit. you know you deserve better. and tho he perpetrated the dream to you, he subsequently made it clear he didn't mean it. which is bullshit. but you gotta cut yourself off completely. don't let him see you, talk to you, any of that shit until you KNOW you've got him out of the system. and i mean for good. not just like a week or two or a couple of months. when you've invested time in someone and let your guard down, its going to take more than a little time to get over him. tell that mutha f-a to be OUT!!! how bout i'm like ready to fight right now. lol

Adei von K said...

Damn. Its so amazing how we are so different but share parallel stories. Fcuk Boys who feel bad? And you can't forget, "She's been there for me and I can't leave now" what the fcuk ever. Girl, I feeeeeeeeeeeeeel you!

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