Monday, July 17, 2006

Locs Down

Well, this is in fact old news, but for some reason I can't shake the feeling it gives me. [nostalgia sometimes make me nauseous]

So this guy is a young journalist and he's doing a summer internship at Black Enterprise magazine. Before the internship he let them know he has locs and they say that's cool.

Then he gets to the job and starts getting shade that, from what I've read, is both subtle and overt. He is subsequently asked to go clean cut.

He says, No Prob, and now sports a cute brush cut.

No harm no foul, he was cool wit it, he keeps the job, all is well that ends well. And to be sure, I wish to foster neither a dialogue nor debate about whether he should or should not have cut it. That's his grown man prerogative, and he did what he had to do.

But still, the whole thing just feels, well...icky.

Before you attempt to half-pipe down my throat, I am well-versed in the corporate American culture. I get it. Well, I get that it exists, but it's the subtext that I'm not feeling. And particularly so from this particular company.

[And now for a personal anecdote from the vaults of Wise's private historiography]

My first job out of college was at a TV network in NYC. It was magical walking into that newsroom on my first day...well, night. I started off working on the overnight news programs. So it's just before my 9pm start time and I walk in, and...um, am I in the right place??? Why there so many, brothas...and sistas up in here?! I was under the impression (and experience) that I'd be one of a palm full at most.

It was like Soul Plane up in there. I was stunned. So when I was promoted to dayside, I realized just how isolating the overnight really is...namely that that's where they store the black folks for safe keeping...cuz dayside wasn't having them. FINALLY I was back to being a token. Whew!

Yet there's a twist... there are also a few tokens in key positions. Assignment editors and such. And to be sure, they are of the fiercely loyal variety. And they are also decidedly, and as I had come to expect, of the citrus complected variety. [No offense to my light skinnded contingency. I'm a chocolate sis, but got no issues in that regard...however, my bosses REALLY did. That's another hellish story for another day]

As usual, I digress...

So the thing about working overnights is that for all the free time that you have during the daylight hours, it doesn't really translate into free personal time. No meeting your friends for 1/2-off appetizer dinners in midtown, no scheduled TV time (I was dying! Barely had time to set the damn VCR to tape shit!)

No time to do my hair, even.

But I lived in Brooklyn, and I had a more convenient personal option. One day right after work I jumped on the BK-bound Q train, woke up in time to hop off at Dean St and heard music to my ears...

"Haaahh brrrraydee, Meez?"

[translation... "Hey sis, I can tell you out here hustling just like me...but your shit is tired. Come let the Africans hook you up wit some braids. We got bout 7 chicks ready to braid you all at once. You'll be done in an hour."]

Why, yes. Thank you.

So I'm on dayside now, and I got braids right, and I'm actually making it to work on time every morning bec there is no curling iron to contend with (sue me, I'm a perm girl). And I look real fly too, cuz the braids are the same length as my natural hair, and very well groomed and beautiful. Well worth the 7 hours in that God forsaken chair listening to the girls cuss me out in Wolof and broken French for not washing my hair beforehand.

So one day the exec producer of the evening news requests a sit down with me. We hit it off immediately. He's a very tough, very fair man, who called me a "Pistol"...which I surmised was Baby Boomer white-speak for what today's corporate climbing black girl would be called "sassy" or "energetic." He liked me.

When word got back to one of the Light Bright Assignment Editors about our meeting, she dismissed it as the boss just "needing to figure out the girl with the braids."

I was stunned. Clearly she was hating...she had never made any effort to be supportive, accessible or even cordial to me or any of the other 'Of Colors' there. She may as well have been grey.

But clearly, there was also probably some truth to it. She had been there a while. I'm sure she'd seen many like me come and go. And obviously she played the game well enough to climb to where she sat comfortably (or so she thought. She got reassigned shortly thereafter).

I pondered what that meant. Was it possible for my hair to eclipse my performance? Was that all they saw ...my impossibly sharp parts brandishing my impossibly clean scalp, and not my consistently improving output and work ethic? I didn't put it past them. That's what they're taught...myopic, asinine manners of categorizing and judging black folks. Hell these were the same people who hired only gay black men, in an effort I imagine, to keep the fast tail black girls still.

I expected that from them.

I expect something different from Black Enterprise, but should I?

What the articles don't point out is that this young man, who I've met on several occasions, is an officer in the organization that reps his fellow black journos. His behavior and reputation is intrinsically linked to that position. He's also from Atlanta, so had he been sent packing that woulda been tough I'm sure on his housing, his summer dough, not to mention school credit perhaps.

I think those things are relevant to note, but at the end of the day he valued the job more than the aesthetic. [I could see if his shit was a mess, but damn!]

He chose his battles closely.

But should BE even have put up the dukes under these pretenses? I think THAT'S what's bugging me. Should a young man, an INTERN no less, be forced to make this decision? Is it fair to assume that an internship is fertile ground for growth and understanding what you do and don't want out of a career?

And while BE appears to side with Hampton Univ, which also bans its Business School students from wearing locs...in an attempt to align more closely with the "realities" of Corporate America...is it actually perpetuating the same short-sighted culture blockers as the white boys?? (And why is a messy perm with ends doing a full split, and new growth piled high to heaven ok on the job???)

I dunno. It's complex. There are lots of black pros who wear locs and are accepted as such with no problems.

Then there are others who insist that you shouldn't give white people a reason not to hire you. To me, if that's the *reason* then for all I know the reason I got hired could be nothing more than a free pass for the boss to jack off to the sight of my azz swaying daily.

I tend to agree with Susan Taylor and Essence who suggest perhaps bringing in image consultants to our black biz schools and train on personal grooming. Lawd knows, us perm girls could use the help, too.

Bottom line...as a subscriber to Black Enterprise, I'm a bit disappointed. I mean, I think it's bizarre...a black publication forces a kid make that kind of decision and all, but he's an adult. He doesn't need a pat on the back for choosing to stay on the books. [hmmm, can you collect unemployment if you get fired from a paid internship??]

But as I open up this month's issue as I do every month, I believe I have found the true root of my unease with this whole thing...

HAVE YOU SEEN
THE HAIR ON EAR.L GRAVES, SR. (BE Publisher) ??? [tried to post it but blogger be trippin]

YO, in the July issue my man has on a ski helmet and his super-burly side burns are clamoring for attention even underneath the ear straps! Good Lawd!

THIS muhfucka has the audacity to tell somebody about grooming?? GTFOH!

And before you say, "Mr. Graves has earned his right to wear his face fur in any manner that he sees fit. He has sustained a respectable career and is a pioneer in this industry"...

I don't give a good gotdam. He has sustained a respectable career and is a pioneer in this industry, and he has been a black man even longer than that...he oughta know better!

Perhaps he just likes to remind his staffers they always have a long way to grow before they reach his "status."

47 comments:

DramaFree said...

I believe that we should lead by example...but Mr. Graves is out of pocket. How can he have the audacity to tell an intern about grooming when he looks a step away from a gorilla with all of his facial hair???

Jonzee said...

You know, its funny that you mentioned the thing about Mr. Grave's personal grooming. When I told my mother about the policy, she was flabbergasted for this very reason.

I also think it is more disturbing then interesting that BE has this policy. And it shows that although we as a people are gaining more economic and social strong holds, we are still imposing standards on ourselves, sometimes, that might not necessarily be necessary.

I have many friends who went to top 10 "B-schools" who have had no issue fitting into corporate culture because of their locs. These folks are well groomed and spend a a grip keeping them maintained.

I myself rock an Afro, and have been concious of it on occasion...not only at work but on the street. Turns out is more of my own doing than the concern of my bosses. As a matter of fact, the president of my division is a Wharton grad with locs.

Seems to me, BE is imposing a much different standard than many of the bigger corporations in the world.

Knockout Zed said...

I'm not in "corporate" America, so maybe I can't chime in on this thing. I work for a city government, with locs, for the past four years. This is my second set of locs. I've had a total of four gigs with locs in different capacities.

They can make this shit about grooming all they want to, but the basis of this shit is control and submission to the dominant culture.

KZ

Jameil said...

and you KNOW this shit pisses me off. b/c of the fact that its BE and like you said EARL FACEFUR GRAVES?! skrrrrrrrr!! made me pull up tight with that. ridiculous. why are we always the ones to smack the shit out of each other instead of helping? i just don't get it. i really don't. you will NOT see me rockin the perm unless its MY choice. not b/c someone chose it for me. you want me to break my hair off by weaving in betsy's tail? YOU do it. aMAZING ya boy earl, notorious for his inappropriate hairwear is the one. ugh.

aquababie said...

the last paragraph of zed's statement says it for me. i've had my locs for almost four years now. i've had no problem with employers. but i work in state government as well.

it is about control and assimilation. the reasons old mutton chop earl graves gives for this policy is ridiculous. also these black business schools need to get their heads out of the sand. you can be professional with any type of hair.

hell i am rocking my locs in bantu knots this week. i'm very professional :)

nikki said...

i'm with aqua and zed. meanwhile, it's up to us black folk to make folk recognize that having 'locs' have nothing to do with 'professionalism' and if the black folk in power (namely the ones running BE) don't take a stand against this shit, they're co-signing with the white employers who think it's fine to not hire a sista cuz her name is iesha instead of heidi.

Anonymous said...

I did not get a job this summer because of my hiar. One place flat out asked me to cut it. I refused. Another woman interviewed me and kept asking about my hair. She even asked does it come out. I knew leaving that interview that I would not get the job. My hair (I have locs) always get me prejudged. Someone suggested that I cut it to make life easier. I cant do it.

Mr.Slish said...

My daddy told me if I ever wore locs I couldn't live in his house..He didn't play that shit. My point!! Black Enterprise is Earl Graves house and yo boy is living there right now. He's smart. Sacrifice now, become successful, build his own house where everyone is judged on their contribution instead of how they make the house look.

Rashan Jamal said...

I'm torn on this issue, I know that we should be able to rock our styles, but there are situations where it can be a disadvantage. I do agree that in a Black owned establishment, it should be a non issue. Great post, you got me thinking.

Anonymous said...

Great post.

I wrote about Hampton University's policies (The Business School) policies a while back on my blog, and received a response from an alumni who basically chewed me out. Whatever.

But as I am looking for a job and rock a natural - sometimes I wear a 'fro but because of the heat, I am twisting it more often than not - I am beginning to wonder. I desperately need a job, but recently got turned down from two positions (that admittedly I was overqualified for but needed the dough) and wondered if it was because of my appearance. I know how to play the game, dress properly for interviews, etc, but am beginning to think that my hair might be a factor. In order to maintian my integrity and my self-esteem, I will not change my hair, but on the other hand, am feeling that I might have to comply in order to pay my rent. Any thoughts?

So...Wise...Sista said...

LS says..."a step away from a gorilla"

HAHAHAHAHAH oKAY! I'm just sayin. I get the whole well-groomed, corporate magazine, put us on the level of Forbes thing...but it is simply comical as hell to me that he's so visibly the opposite of that!


Jonzee... You're so right, the personal experiences of people rocking natural styles varies. Some have no issues, others catch pure hell. And I agree that BE is imposing this rule perhaps unnecessarily, but they're basically saying that they agree with the notion that locs, etc are not suitable.

Oh well. Like I said, I'm just being idealistic. lol


KZ says..."They can make this shit about grooming all they want to, but the basis of this shit is control and submission to the dominant culture."

There it is.


Jameil is mad as hell and she's not gonna take it anymore! (she's also a proud Hampton alum) lol

I feel you. And in my idealistic, culturally responsible mind, I wish that BE would be at the forefront of showing that hair is just that, hair, it is not listed on resumes, it is not an indication of a person's talent or drive. And that there are perfectly capable and brilliant journalists that can rock them and be stellar professionals. You ever get the cross eyed stare in your newsroom for rocking the nat'?


Aqua says the Quote of the Day..."old mutton chop earl graves " HAHA

Ya know, the sad thing is that BE didn't implement this standard, and it's doing nothing to shake it up. There is certainly much more power in institutions as opposed to individuals. ::sighs::


Nikki...The Iesha/Heidi debate is one of my very favs! If I were an employer, I'm not saying Tequila couldn't handle the job, in fact, I bet sis could kill it...but there'd be something inside me that would wanna teach her momma a damn lesson for naming her child after a lethal night of transgressions! lol

I digress...Do you think people would be as passe if dude got a job at say, (wow, remember back in the day when I could have inserted any number of hip hop mags and it would have evoked a sense of pride and quality, impactful, relevant journalism?? ::sigh::)...ok let's say Rolling Stone, I guess, for lack of any other reputable mag...and he was pressured to grow a 'fro or locs?? My inside joke with my friends is that I'm only allowed limited visiting hours in Brooklyn until I grow my shit out. And I feel the same way when I go to certain industry functions. Dunno...


Eps...That's crazy...yet very real. It's even worse for you bec you are young. When you walked in I bet all they saw was some misplaced image from TV. Sucks. :( Cutting it MIGHT make life easier...but who said easier was better?


Slish...Ah, your Daddy was just scared you'd turn out to be like the bumbuh lazy Rasta back a yahd! lol Every self-respecting Jamaican in America forbids their kids. Mine sure did.
And you're right, it was the right decision for him to make in order to climb there. And you're also right, it's about the sacrifice. I'm just saying, I'm disappointed that BE judges that way. And thank God for this skid, he didn't see it as a personal sacrifice at all. Others might.


TCas says..."but there are situations where it can be a disadvantage."

That's the thing...it shouldn't be that way. And BE is perpetuating it, when it claims it's just a rank and file with the rest of Corporate America. It is a dicey issue tho. You're right about that.


Lainad...it's a personal choice. Perhaps the bros and sistas who rock locs and naturals are better suited to chime in on what to do. I dunno. It's tough and it's so wack to have to wage this war.

What say y'all??

Anonymous said...

It seems apparent that our cultural attributes (hair, music, linguistics, clothing styles etc.) are en vogue for entertainment purposes/money (break dancing, done in various ways for thousands of years or the lambada dance which blacks in brazil had been doing for about 300 years before it was packaged and made trendy for two years in the early nineties then discarded) or for more serious endeavors which the masses of us are shielded from (research inventions from blacks in America alone and you'll understand). However, when these same attributes in the form of people have to exist side by side or face to face with the larger American social structure in most (not all)corporate situations it's seen as adversarial by THEM whether WE want to believe it or not. Even though, I don't have locs (not dreads because there is nothing dreadful about them unless they aren't kept clean!) I despise the censorship. Some of the brothers and sisters as well as institutions who yield to it basically seem to say: "We're not all going to be entrepreneurs and since they make the rules, if this is the way they say you should look, comply." If for whatever reason, a young brother or sister was not allowed to grow locs in high school, if they go off to college, in some places, it's still not an option. If it's not an option in college, it may not be an option after college depending on their field. That's a hindrance of personal freedom. Anonymous Detroit.

Blah Blah Blah said...

To play the debbil's advocate...
A former co-worker of the paler persuasion had to cut his hair above this color in order to work at the company I use to work for...his company is white founded, owned and run....Hmmmm

I was thinking to work a part-time job a few years back...Footlocker...So that I could get a discount for these ever ridiculously rising prices in sneakers for my growing teenage boys....THEY WEAR BLACK AND WHITE OFFICITATING WORK UNIFROMS....AWWWWW HELLL NO!! You couldn't catch Bloop in any type of uniform...eva! So I didn't apply. Catch my tie in? No? Well dude didn't have to cut his locs if he didn't want to...there are plenty of jobs out there that would have took him with locs.

I have a tattoo...my employee handbook says I should cover it...it's too freaking hot in the summer to wear long sleeve shirts...so I spoke to my CEO...he said eff the handbook...I now where sleevless blouses to work. Had he not agreed, I would probably have either 1: look for another job or 2: kept a sweater at the job to cover said tattoo while at the job house.

Almost every institution has a policy that someone complains about.... Not to say Wise doesn't have a valid thought, about the why's and how come's...
Yet, sometimes...we make issues out of things that are issues for EVERYONE...and turn them into...black issues.

Say what you want...blast me if you'd like...but honestly...we truely can look at every situation and make it a black and white issue...or a darker vs. lighter issue. I find myself doing it all the time! Yet, I have to stop myself sometimes because I can't go around resenting every thing and assume it's because I am of color that it's an issue.

onefromphilly said...

Every student at Hampton Business school who wants to wear locs should transfer up the road to HOWARD, my alma mater, where we are allowed to be BLACK! That shyt is friggin unbelieveable, that at an HBCU we still have to bow down to the white man's idea of acceptability..damn damn damn
I'm cancelling my subscription to BE.

@ lainad: I wore braids for 11 year and once wore a wig over the braids for an interview with a consulting firm (many years ago). It was early in my career and I sincerely thought that braids would be an issue. CAUTION, I damn near passed out because it was too tight and cutting off my circulation to the brain LMAO. I figured I'm gonna play their game, show them what they want and after I get the job then they were going to see the braids. I did get a second interview, but didn't get a good offer. Hair is a very personal issue, ultimately you have to decide. I work for the Feds where my locs are not an issue.

aquababie said...

well i really fukked up if i choose to get a corporate name. my first name is african. i was on a phone call yesterday with a client. he took over for our last contact person. he asked me ethnicity my name was. that hadn't happened in a while, but i know when folk look at my resume they know i'm black. i'm not trying to hide shit.

my locs aren't going anywhere. if i do cut my locs, i'll be rocking an afro.

we shouldn't have to try to fit into anyone's box. when BE says black folk shouldn't wear locs, it makes it easier for others to say if black folk don't want it, we're not having it either. they're saying it anyway. it just makes them feels they're even more justified.

aquababie said...

i meant corporate job :)

Miz JJ said...

I always say I am realist and not an idealist. Ideally you should be able to rock locs and it not affect your chances of employment, but that is not always the reality. However, for black organizations to pull the same crap is unfortunate.

Anonymous said...

I agree with Blah Blah Blah. All things are not black issues. On my last job, all men were required to be clean shaven. No beards, no mustaches, no goatees, no nothing. That's just the way it was. I say get the job, stay a little while, then grow the locs later if allowed. I am a Hampton Alumnus, and I agree with their policy. Hampton grooms wants young African Americans to have the greatest chance of success. No need to jade peoples views by thinking you can more easily climb the corporate ladder with locs than without. I must say I have seen some very well groomed and professional looking locs, however I don't think Marchand Simon looks well groomed with his locs. This may be why initially the BE staff agreed it wouldn't be a problem...then they saw him. Just my opinion.

Da Arsonist said...

I agree with Slish and Blah...

There are choices in life that you have to make. Da kid made the decision that he felt was better for his career, which I respect.

Was it messed up that he had to make that choice...yes, but it is what it is.

But Graves is wrong for having dat shit on his face....Dat nigga coulda publish them lil green bibles that stuff is horrid.

Veronica Marché said...

Aye.

My baby Mashaun. Still settin' off firestorms. Lol.

I did my hooping and hollering about this when Mashaun first told us (NABJ's under-35 constituency) that he'd be taking a trip to the barber. Since then, we've calmed down, but columnists sure haven't. And he's just ready to get on with his life. But the fact it, image and identity are of special concern to black folk, so maybe this will never die down....

Also... "citrus complected"? Lmao! That's a new one. I might start using that in place of "high yellow" and "melanin-challenged."

And I think I might start using "grey" for those who ain't down with the cause. (That had me rollin' for a good five minutes. This is why I *heart* Wise.)

"...is it actually perpetuating the same short-sighted culture blockers as the white boys??" ... That's exactly what I said. If anything, these institutions have the power to show that an African Americans can be professional with natural, permed or S-curled hair. (Okay, maybe not an S-curl...) This self-rejection of our own physical characteristics is going to keep killing us and pitting us against each other, unless someone in power steps up and says, "Look. This is who we are."

"And why is a messy perm with ends doing a full split, and new growth piled high to heaven ok on the job???"... I've asked myself the saaaaaaame thang....

Veronica Marché said...

P.S. Why, when I saw your title, did I know exactly what this post was gonna be about? Lol.

So...Wise...Sista said...

First and foremost let me reiterate that I am in no way opening a dialogue of "should he/ shouldn't he." That's no one's decision but his...not Civil Rights groups who believe he was wronged, and not any professionals who think he should go with the program and folo suit.

I also purposely refrained from naming him, bec this really isnt about him, nor do I wish to make it as such.

My point is that while I understand the importance of being clean cut...I dont believe that having locs or a natural style should automatically be considered the opposite...bec that also intrinsically implies that the person is less professional/capable.

And to answer Blah...you play a good debil. lol Your sentiments are valid and I wouldn't even argue with them. But I would suggest that this in particular is a black thing...if for no other reason than that all them white/Asian kids I be seeing wearing dreads (note, I always call them locs unless they on someone not of the brown family coloring...dayum, have I ever seen a Puerto Rican with dreads?? What's new, I digress...)...either just skateboard for a living, or work in IT. lol

But my main point, and I do have one that is as usual, off-beat, and smart-azz in nature...is that grooming, as least in my most public perceptions of the "face" of BE...is an OLE FASHION HOT ALLIGATOR MESS.

Carry on.

So...Wise...Sista said...

PS...I wholeheartedly agree that he should have been warned if they were a mess...but something tells me that he's not the kind of man to be out there looking any ole type of way. But thing is, if he was a she and had a limp, dry mess of pink rollered nest, would she have been told to shave her shit, or would someone just suggest Simone's on Fulton in Brooklyn?

PPS...Duck, "citrus"...one of my favs. Inspired by this boy whose coloring resembled a banana. You can have that one, no charge. ;)

S-Curls are coming back...I took a pic of a real fresh juicy one with my phone on the plane a few weeks ago. I'll try to post it!

Anonymous said...

I think that the whole "I am not my hair" mantra needs to be transferred and imposed on other things. Yes, it is important to be attentive to grooming, clothing, and the like. We live in a world where we need to be mindful of how we represent ourselves with regards to appearance, behavior, et cetera. We need to be mindful not just of what it says to others, but what we teach ourselves. I think at the end of the day as long as you represent yourself in a way which is pleasing to you, and act in a way which is appropriate, professional and ethical, people will have nothing to worry about. I mean people should just let it be known that hair, clothes, or other things aren't the only things which define them.

Jameil said...

only from the black folk. that shit is ridiculous. white people are always talkin abt how cute it is. my work speaks for itself. if you don't like it and I'M NOT ON AIR, you don't have the right to tell me to do my hair. esp. when i see BLACK roots and bleached blonde hair, bad weaves, incorrectly frosted tips, high 80s bangs, etc. etc. if you're not going to hire me based on my hair then i doubt i want to work for your conservative, right wing organization, anyway. the hair hits a sore spot for me b/c its ALWAYS the black people.

Anonymous said...

Girl You spoiling me..Damn ya blog is intellectually inclined and stimulates the thought process...I agree with you!! The concept of hair in the workplace is a bunch of bullshit...I mean, by now people should know whats presentable but at the same time thats discrimination..Fuck that!!I just got my hair done by the Africans on Saturday (7hrs int hat damn chair, and yes they spoke French the whole damn time) butanyway when I got to work my white counterparts (some of them) liked my hair and complimented it...bottom line as black people we need to get it together and if that means banning together on this issue...calling corporate, better buisness bureau, shooooot Dateline or 20/20 it should be done!!

EqualOpportunityCrush said...

this is a great entry.. definitely food for thought.. i grew up in a conservative household and til this day i've never seen my father with a mustache or a beard, etc.. clean shaven all his life..

i guess i kinda would play devil's advocate like ms. blah blah.. in a corporate environment, i've seen white boys being asked to cut their mullets and rat tails and jewish boys to trim their lil jew boy fros.. if a non-black person had dreads or an afro, they too would be told to cut that shit off.. that's just not the *image* that corporate america likes to project..

my last boyfriend actually was a Boricua (Puerto Rican) with locs and he had maaaaad difficulty during job interviews and was OFTEN turned down for positions.. but he refused to cut them..

basically it comes down to adults CHOOSING their battles.. nobody said life was easy nor did they say it was going to be fair.. we can all pull out the violins and play harps and shit, but so is life.. suck it up.. either you cut them off or you keep it movin til you find a place of employment that will not overtly discriminate against you for your hair..

it's not right, but it's okay..

aquababie said...

i'm gonna play the natural hair devil here.

what if naturals were the norm and having a chemical wasn't mainstream. would it be alright to impose that rule if you don't want a natural hairdo such as locs or a fro?

i'm just asking for argument's sake. i'm not trying to start anything.

4EverJennayNay said...

Loved this one Wise.

Who'da thunk to be blessed with hair so versatile black folk would be so... so... conflicted with how to be comfortable with it.

I came real close to relaxing my hair while job hunting right before I finished school up. I'm really glad I didn't. I may do it eventually, but I want it to be MY decision! I think the industry (yea I'm in media as well) is conflicted too, but by black folk mainly. The main people who had something to say about my 'fro were blacks. White people never thought it to be a problem. I dunno... its an interesting situation tho.

Anonymous said...

plain and simple i think people are afraid of what they dont understand... I have rocked my hair in a million different ways ... in high school i get called a "slave girl" cause im wearin two french braides instead of relaxed hair and a long ponytail ... then i get a relaxer and im made fun of for wearin my do in a faux hawk ...now im clamin to be white ... so ive learned that you can never please everyone ... and you should mos def not try ... my hair could or could not be a definition of who i am at any given point in time ... but there is no way that you are gonna define me because folk have some skewed vision of what it means to be black ... too black ... not black enough... im AI plain and simple ...black and proud ... and loud as hell... whether i am bald or have more hair than diana ross and chaka khan combined ...and if i choose to change my hair ... you better believe its because its my perogative and no one elses ... but thanks for the meal ... im full until next time of course ...

Knockout Zed said...

This shit has got me thinking about a similar issue. One that I've been on the opposite side of for a long time. This post just made me switch. I'll be blogging about it soon.

Thanks for the inspiration So Wise!

KZ

Little Brown Girl said...

Great friggin post!!!

I've been screaming a similar arguement for a minute now...not necessarily about Graves but about all this madness with hair and what not. Too much emphasis on things that are irrelevant to my ability to perform in the capacity the job requires.

I am now growing locs and part of my dilemma was the position I'm in and the people I work for. I am sure there will be a level of uncomfort with my decision but at the end of the day I made a decision for me...not this job or the crackas I work for. I'm a professional and my hair will be kept in a professional manner...don't trip because you dont understand it cause I'm a lawsuit waiting to happen...YOU DIG!!!

So...Wise...Sista said...
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So...Wise...Sista said...

Perfectly put, as usual, CNelly!


Jameil...Only from folk, huh? Deep.


Yaz...Are your eyebrows all extra arched and your scalped pulled back tight with those braids? :) Thanks for blowing my head up. lol


EqOpp...Now you know how I feel about brothas with bare faces, but Papa EqOpp gets a pass. lol


Aqua...I like that devils advocate. I wonder how this would play out if it were something that blackc folks didn't have succh an issue with...like dick or azz size. What if the employer said, yo brah you gotta do something about that huge toolie you got hanging there...would it be so cut and dry. :) HAHAHA


4ev says..."White people never thought it to be a problem."
You ever wonder what they say behind your back about it?


AI...you go! Lemme find out you be rockin the side pony. ;)


KZ...Sounds intriguing. Lookin fwd to peepin it.


RD...I remember reading the post about you locing. It was so sweet. How's the feedback from folks at your planntation?

FreeBeing said...

The sad truth is that the "realities" of Corporate America could be slowly changed to include the cultural realities of different by companies by BE. Instead of continuing the progress of Civil Rights (that enables BE to be, they have gotten comfortable and become followers instead of innovators of change in the workplace.

(And, don't get me started on my own hair. I'm with you on the perm thing, but this heat just kills a good relaxer, so I'm trying to go natural.)

Great post.

fuckgoogle said...

I can't hold my tongue, I'm a tell it like it is.....So I know what I can expect from you when you make it to the "Top" right....1

So...Wise...Sista said...

Free...I couldnt have said it better...and I literally took a whole blog entry trying. lol

Lawd, every summer I "go natural"...just refusing to perm my shit in this heat. Even a Dominican doobie cant hold up. Bout to slap some 3rd grade throwback cornrows in and call it a day. :)


911 says..."I can't hold my tongue"

We still talking about hair? ;)

Nika Laqui said...

I'm battling this issue with myself as we speak....I'm natural and pressing it is too timely, costly...but I don't feel I should have to "relax" my hair to make these MFs feel "comfortable"...I don't want to look like a European at ALL....but they don't wanna hear that...

La said...

To say that the way that we are perceived is not directly attributed to the appearance of our hair when we are viewed by "others" would be grossly naive. It is one of the few things that is distinguishable about us, in their minds. Is it right? No. Is it a reality? Absolutely. I remember doing an internship at a majority white music tv company *ahem* and before I barely got a month into my work there, my supervisor was leaving me alone to run the dept in his stead. At the time I thought it was b/c I worked harder for more days, for longer hours than any other intern there. I realized later that it was probably because my dark curly hair and light complexion made him think I was Latina.

fuckgoogle said...

Its a ludacris song and I was referring it to your situation but dependent upon how you took uuhhhmmm......maybe.......not...;}.1

Jameil said...

exactly.

Sherlon Christie said...

damn...

So...Wise...Sista said...

NSane...I have a friend who went natural last year, and she would get her hair flat iron at least every other week. So she's struggling with her bills all of a sudden so I had her write out her monthly expenses, and sure enough it was all that frying and dying that was getting all up in her pockets. Me personally, I dont know what I would do if I lived in a city that didn't have the $10 Dominican salons! Good luck with your dilemma, girlie!


LA says..."To say that the way that we are perceived is not directly attributed to the appearance of our hair when we are viewed by "others" would be grossly naive."

Yup. And you're right...it's not right. Cuz why the hell does Donald Trump have ANY credibility?! Einstein...I could go on and on. lol


911...I'll take that any way you dish it. ;)


Jameil's feeling something that was said...I just dont know what it is! ;)


SPC...Out of curiosity, exactly what type of 'damn' was that?

aquababie said...

what's up with the dominician salons? i know folk that swear by them.

So...Wise...Sista said...

Aqua...Present company included. Things is, they're everything the black salon isnt...fast, cheap and impersonal. Perfect for me, but I do feel guilty, like I'm helping to put sista outta biz or something. There's two across the street from me and I can be in and out within an hour and a half, and only be out $12 for a wash and blow dry or wrap. Sure they talk about you in Spanish and sing songs from Hot Boriqua FM mad loud, but it's soooo worth it. lol

Unknown said...

Okay so I just so happened to be searching the web for an article I wrote and came across this. How did I miss it.

Good job ... it is funny to me that this still comes up (even though you wrote yours back during the summer when it was taking place).

Hair seems to be a sensitive issue for our people and understandably so. But at the end of the day it is all about choices that are necessary ... I made mine!

Thanks for the shout!

dmb851290 said...

As a subscriber of BE as well as a sister who has chose to go natural I feel compelled to voice my opinion to Mr. Graves. Does anyone know how I can get his e-mail or postal address?

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